Well, I'm going to go out on a limb and say it was a good speech, that I support the components of the plan, and that neither of those things mean much. B.O. talked a little tougher -- which was good; but now we need to see if he can also walk the walk.
Have you ever seen a meaner, tougher looking politician than John Boehner? Man. Every time they showed him during the speech he looked like he wanted to walk up to the podium and beat Barack about the head and shoulders with Nancy Pelosi's gavel. I still don't see many GOP votes going for whatever bill makes it way out of Congress.
What say you? Will we get a bill? Will it matter?
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I guess you are out on a limb.
I have worked in the insurance industry for 25 years and although there are problems, it is not as bad as politicians would have us believe. I am sorry but I am not drinking the kool-aide.
A massive overhaul is not needed...tweeking...example tort reform.
Allowing informal "groups" to be covered as a group. Example, there are over 100,000 Remax real estate professionals in the USA but they can not be covered as a group because they are independent contractors.
This leads to another tweeking. Get rid of State Insurance Commissioners. Example, in FL I could not sell a life insurance policy that paid benefits for long term care expenses but I can in PA. That makes no sense.
Make uniform policies that apply to all 50 states.
This notion that savings will come from stopping waste is just plain horse hockey. Somebody is going to pay.
Finally, did anybody watch CBS Sunday Morning this past sunday? A medical expert stated that based upon science (you know, facts) a person born in the USA in 2040 will have a life expectancy of 120-150 years. Since the majority of health care expenses come in the last years of life, you all better buy a long term care policy.
I thought the speech was very good. Will it provide the glue that the democrats need to pass something? We'll see. Just as important, did ease the fears of independents? Again, we'll see. Initial polling says yes.
Those eyes on Boehner come from the fact that he couldn't have a cigarette for more than hour. That will set off a heavy smoker like him every time.
Who's surprised that the kook that yelled out "liar" is from South Carolina? The republicans, from my jaundiced eye, looked small, narrow and obstructionist. Unwilling to participate in the process simply because they think there is political advantage in not doing so.
The health care industry needs more than a little tweeking. It's needs to be regulated like any other important industry that has a direct impact on the stability of our country. Leaving it to rapacious capitalists is a formula for disaster.
As D'blank says "no one should be denied proper health care and no one should be forced into bankruptcy because of medical bills". The current health insurance industry in this country does neither.
jb -- your suggestions make a lot of sense, but when you have 40 million people with no health insurance, and when health care takes 20% of GDP, something more than tweaking is called for. this may not be the right plan. idk. but something has to be done.
We will get some minor changes be no overhaul. Tort reform was passed in Texas and the saving has not been passed on and health care costs are rising there faster than the national average.
We could go to the French system of private health insurance but the companies would only be allowed 4% for admin. It would not pass because who is the Government to tell business how much they can make?
Over the last year my company with some 100 on health coverage has been presented with increase that totaled nearly 400%. We have cut coverage to offset those increases. If that were to continue then we would be paying over $7.38 per employee hour in 10 years or more than the minimum wage is today.
I wish someone in government,anyone, who talks about,"bold moves" & "shaping the future" meant it, & understood what a bold move is.
These are doable bold moves: total government takeover of health care, setting a date outlawing new cars that run on oil products, saving billions of dollars by closing all / most of the 737 military bases overseas, sending every kid to school free on every level, cutting government spending by cutting the number of members of congress,represenative government,requiring voting, outlaw lobbying & really creating jobs.
If they come up with a plan that has input from the other isle and not just non-conservatives such as Olympia Snow; excludes people in this country illegally; includes REAL tort reform, and forces members of Congress to go on the same public plan; can be written in less than 300 pages - I'll think about supporting it.
Otherwise this is nothing but one huge government grab for more control and is nothing but a bunch of BS.
Watching last night I thought here we are in the 21st century and there are all these women in bright clothes many of them sitting right up front and on the podium.
Then I noticed that banished to a small segregated portion of the room is a group of pissed off old ashen white men in grey suits yelling at the speaker. You would have thought they were some historically disadvantaged minority group who think they are being lied to by the man.
Guess these old white folks are just out there speaking truth to power and hoping the man will quit picking on’em.
In 1861 in South Carolina, the rebels fired on Fort Sumter and set off the Civil War. Last night another South Carolinian fired an opening salvo, "you lie."
At the risk of being too
inside the beltway, The house bill specifically states that no payments would go to illegals.
H.R. 3200: Sec 246 — NO FEDERAL PAYMENT FOR UNDOCUMENTED ALIENS
Nothing in this subtitle shall allow Federal payments for affordability credits on behalf of individuals who are not lawfully present in the United States.
If one reads further down in the bill, the provision states that you do not have to prove residency, Obama not a lie but not the truth either. Ladies and Gentlemen, it doesn't matter if the plan gets passed or in what form. People of poverty only think in terms of right now. Yesterday is way back and can't see tomorrow. The Poor will NEVER stop using the ER, and we will never ask for proof of insurance before treating. The goverment can't even run a post office. We will be paying. Zero times 100 is still zero.
"THE POOR" happen to be 13.2% of the country and rising. "THE POOR" are 46.3 million uninsured people and rising. Warrenout,how many kids do you think are in those figures? It's time the wealthiest most wonderful all magnificent country on earth stopped worrying about who was paying the bill and started taking care of their own, regardless of the cost, simply because it's the right thing to do.
Gaga I have been caring for Warrens poorest since the middle 80's. I have been caring for the west side of Warren in their homes and in a minor ER. Don't go sticking your shovel where there isn't any mud. If you care to debate facts and figures lets throw down.It isn't about who is paying. Its about the end product in whatever form is not going to fix the problem.
So now it's not enough to legislate that illegal aliens don't qualify in this plan, we want the medical profession to be the enforcement arm of the INS?
the republicans have us right where the want us. Talking about irrelvant and incendiary issues that have nothing to do with the point of the whole exercise. The more we argue about abortion, "death panels", and illegal aliens, the less likely it will be that anything gets done. This is the entire and only goal of congressional republicans -- defeat whatever Obama wants passed. Period. It's a zero sum game for them. An Obama defeat is a victory for them. A victory for them helps them get elected. And that is all they care about.
Obama should get the best bill he can get without any Republican votes. He's not going to get them anyway so why bother.
Sorry to be so late for supper. For some reason, the dinner bell didn't ring in my inbox.
Insurance was formed in the UK many years ago to best distribute funds to widows and orphans on death of providers. It was made to be an efficient, predictable and cost effective means of sharing burden. In NYC and other cities in the USA, fire departments used to be private. They were ineffective and for profit. Municipalities decided they could do better by sharing the cost and doing the organizing. Who among us would risk giving our fire fighting mandate to for profit companies? Yes, it is done. How about paying for different options on putting out your fire? Different plans? Doesn't sound right, does it? How about the concept of insurance profit being based on under utilization?
One standard of care for everyone, no profit and work on the sources of poor health: diet and exercise. Of course it entails taking on the agriculture/chemical/food industries. No shoulders can take on the burden. The far right is over the edge of conspiracy theories. They have moved the center of the party just to the left of Warren Jeffs and Timothy McVeigh. If only they were correct I think I could qualify for a job on a death panel...
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